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After a short break, #cpc13 delegates returning to constitutional workshop.
Ontario MP Peter Kent speaking to media about Senate controversy and investigations. Says a long way to go before definitive conclusions can be reached.
Government Senate Leader Claude Carignan fielding questions on referendum option and the continuing expense controversy.
Seeing many tweets from inside the closed-door constitutional session indicating that the leadership selection rules are now being debated.
Doors closed to everyone during current vote in constitutional workshop, even convention co-chair Michelle Rempel.
Peter MacKay: a clear rejection of changing leadership rules. Vote seemed much more definitive than the past.
MacKay: whole convention to vote tomorrow on forbidding failed constitutional changes from being repeated at next two conventions.
If you missed the news earlier, Conservative delegates rejected two resolutions to change leadership selection rules. Both were voted down at closed-door policy workshops. Resolutions that pass are brought before the entire convention on Saturday.
A resolution that would prevent defeated constitutional amendments from being reintroduced at the subsequent two conventions will be debated at tomorrow's plenary session, according to delegates.
►LES RÈGLES CONCERNANT L’ÉLECTION DU CHEF
Les modalités du scrutin pour choisir le chef du parti risquent de susciter les débats les plus houleux à ce congrès.
Les 19 membres du Comité national sur la Constitution se sont appuyés sur les commentaires des associations de comté pour classer les modifications de la Constitution en quatre groupes prioritaires avant la tenue des « séances de groupe ».
Un amendement doit obtenir l’appui de 1) la majorité des délégués, et de 2) la majorité des délégations provinciales.
Au moment où M. Harper a remporté la course à la direction du Parti conservateur pour la première fois, en 2004, on attribuait 100 points à chaque circonscription peu importe la taille de cette dernière. Ces points étaient attribués aux candidats en fonction de leur pourcentage dans chaque circonscription.
Voici les deux amendements :
C-131 modifie la Section 10 de la constitution du Parti conservateur :
10.10.2 Chaque circonscription électorale a cent (100) points un minimum de cent (100) points. Pour chaque vote excédant 100 dans une circonscription électorale, la circonscription a droit à un point additionnel, pour un maximum de 200.
C-132 élimine complètement le système des points et reprend la formule « un membre, un vote » de l’Alliance canadienne :
10.10 L’élection du chef a lieu par le vote direct des membres dans chacune des circonscriptions électorales, comme suit:
10.10.1 Chaque membre du Parti a une (1) voix.
10.10.2 Chaque circonscription électorale a cent (100) points.
10.10.3 Les candidats à la direction reçoivent un total de points en fonction du pourcentage des voix remportées dans chaque circonscription.
10.10.4 Pour gagner l’élection, un candidat doit obtenir une majorité de points voix partout au pays.
10.10.5 Le vote a lieu par scrutin préférentiel (vote unique transférable).
10.10.6 Chaque candidat peut demander que des agents électoraux soient présents à toutes les étapes du dénombrement des voix.
10.10.7 À chaque ronde du dénombrement, les résultats pondérés nationaux et les résultats par circonscription électorale sont rendus publics.Andrew Thomsonat 5:05 PM yesterday
The 19-member National Constitution Committee used feedback from riding associations to rank constitutional amendments into four priority groups prior to the "breakout session."An amendment must earn support from 1) a majority of all delegates, and 2) a majority of the provincial delegations. The two leadership amendments have been designated "Priority 2."
When Stephen Harper won the first Conservative leadership race in 2004, each riding was assigned 100 points regardless of size. The points were assigned to candidates based on their percentage in each riding.Here are the two amendments:
C-131 changes Section 10 of the Conservative party constitution:10.10.2 Each electoral district will be allocated a minimum of 100 points. For each ballot cast in an electoral district over 100, an electoral district will be allocated an additional point, to a maximum of 200.
C-132 eliminates the points system altogether and returns to the Canadian Alliance tradition of "one member, one vote":10.10 The election of the Leader shall be by way of a direct vote of members in every electoral district, as follows:
10.10.1 Each member of the party will have one vote.
10.10.2 Each electoral district will be allocated 100 points.
10.10.3 Leadership candidates will be assigned a point total based on their percentage of the vote in each electoral district.10.10.4 To win the leadership, a candidate must obtain a majority of the points votes from across the country.
10.10.5 Voting will be by preferential vote (single transferable ballot).
10.10.6 Each leadership candidate is entitled to have scrutineers present at all stages of the vote count.10.10.7 At each count round, both the weighted national results and the results by electoral district shall be made public.
Watch the policy plenary from the 2011 Conservative convention in Ottawa: http://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/cpac-special/episodes/17115066/
Watch the constitutional plenary debate from the 2011 Conservative convention in Ottawa: http://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/cpac-special/episodes/17114832/
Here's how the leadership debate played out at the 2011 Conservative convention in Ottawa:
"Article 10.9 would be changed as follows:
10.9.2 Each electoral district will be allocated 100 points and, in the case of EDAs where more than 100 ballots were case, one point per additional vote up to a maximum of 300 additional points."
But a challenge was expected as to whether the resolution could be brought forward to plenary with a petition. Were petitions reserved only for issues not raised at a workshop? Could a defeated resolution apply under the same rule?
Lawyers were consulted. Critics said petitions weren't intended for do-overs of amendments that failed at the breakout session; the floodgates would be open at future conventions.
Supporters argued that the petition allowed for matters to be brought to a vote on the floor.
The chairs took several minutes to reach a decision on whether the petition was in order. They ruled that decision of a workshop did not bind the plenary; it just expressed their wish to place a resolution on the plenary.
The motion was clearly defeated by a show of hands, followed by cheers. Andrew Thomsonon October 25 at 3:04 PM
And some quotes from delegates at the 2011 convention, beginning with Ontario MP Scott Reid, one of the most visible proponents of change, and Peter MacKay:
Scott Reid: Stephen Harper insisted on the ability to change rules after the first leadership convention. The new system would keep the best elements of the old Canadian Alliance and Progressive conservative voting systems.
Peter MacKay: "Basic principles dictate that equality is equality...It's not creating a two-tier party system...Let's keep a process that wins."
Doug Finley: "This system is broken. The opportunity for abuse, for improper conduct, for sheer downright cheating, is unbelievable." Finley called himself the only person in the room to have likely managed a leadership campaign under the current rules (Stephen Harper in 2004).
Michael Chong: The points system produced a pan-Canadian party representative of all regions. "Let's not tinker with a winning formula," he said.
Senator Pierre Claude Nolin: Canada was founded on the basic principle of equality of ridings. Reid's amendment would be an attack on the 2003 merger agreement, and the word of Harper and MacKay should be respected.
Peter Kent: "It symbolizes the creeping acceptance of proportional representation."Andrew Thomsonon October 25 at 2:28 PM
Reid told CPAC's Martin Stringer that the current system could allow a candidate to exploit weak ridings to win the leadership and ultimately "destroy" the party. He cited David Orchard's 2003 campaign to lead the Progressive Conservatives, along with Belinda Stronach in 2004.
Reid called it a question of equality. The current system was a one-time deal as mentioned in the 2003 merger agreement, he added.
Senator Gerry St. Germain, a Tory-turned Canadian Alliance member, responded that the current system was working well.Andrew Thomsonon October 25 at 2:15 PM
Another attempt to reward larger riding associations with more delegates failed.2008
Ils rejettent également une autre initiative visant à récompenser les associations de comté ayant un plus grand nombre de membres en leur attribuant davantage de délégués.
Ontario MP Scott Reid, a former Canadian Alliance member, supported a proposal to change representation at conventions. Ridings with more than 100 members could send a maximum of 10 delegates. Smaller ridings would send one delegate for each 10 members. Larger riding associations, mostly in the west and Ontario, would benefit more compared to those in Atlantic Canada and Quebec.
Reid also wanted to change the leadership rules to one member, one vote and was booed on the floor when speaking in favour. Delegates ultimately rejected the plan.
According to reports, MacKay left an emergency caucus meeting over a disagreement Reid on the leadership issue. MacKay called it a betrayal of the 2003 Canadian Alliance-Progressive Conservative merger terms and was a “deal-breaker.” He said its adoption would leave the new party in jeopardy.
Ancien membre de l’Alliance canadienne, le député ontarien Scott Reid a appuyé un projet visant à modifier la représentation lors de congrès. Les comtés ayant plus de 100 membres pourraient envoyer 10 délégués au maximum. Les petits comtés pourraient envoyer 1 délégué pour chaque tranche de 10 membres. Situées surtout dans l’ouest et en Ontario, les associations de circonscription, étant plus grandes, profiteraient davantage de ce projet que celles situées dans le Canada atlantique et au Québec.
Reid a été hué sur le parquet lorsqu’il s’est déclaré en faveur du projet. Les délégués ont finalement rejeté cette proposition.
MacKay aurait quitté brusquement un caucus d’urgence en raison d’un désaccord avec S. Reid sur le projet visant la représentation des circonscriptions. M. MacKay l’a qualifié de trahison des conditions de la fusion de l’Alliance canadienne et du Parti progressiste-conservateur, intervenue en 2003. Il a ajouté que ce projet constituait une rupture de contrat et que son adoption placerait le nouveau parti dans une position précaire.
Harper wins more than 55 per cent of points on the first ballot to defeat Belinda Stronach and Tony Clement. He would name MacKay the party's deputy leader.
Il n’y a qu’un tour puisque M. Harper obtient plus de 55 pourcent des points dans l’ensemble du Canada.
The merger agreement signed by Stephen Harper and Peter MacKay called for a one-member, one-vote point system to elect the Conservative party's leader.2003
One hundred points were assigned to each federal riding, regardless of membershipBut those rules were followed by a proviso:
size. Results in each riding determined how points were assigned to candidates.
6. One-time process for leadership selectionThe system used to elect the first Leader need not be used for later leadership elections and the membership of the Conservative Party of Canada could select an alternative method of electing future leaders.
In 2011, Conservatives rejected resolutions on:
- the “normalization of prostitution”
- automatically stripping citizenship and charging with treason any Canadian citizen who takes up arms against Canada, the military, or an ally
As the convention proceeds, we're also looking back at Conservative conventions past -- that includes the Progressive Conservatives, Canadian Alliance, and Reform. Our website has ballot results, anecdotes, and blow-by-blow developments from leadership and policy conventions.
You can see the full list here: http://www.cpac.ca/en/highlight/the-conservative-conventions-1927-2011/
Follow CPAC's coverage of the Conservative Party of Canada's 2013 convention in Calgary, including the resolutions, policy debates, past conventions, and more!
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In 1989 the Reform party issued a questionnaire to members. The results provide a snapshot of the fledgling party's make-up just two years after being established.
- Born in western Canada: 73.4%
- Born in central Canada: 9.1%
- Male: 71.7%
- Female: 28.3%
- 60 and over: 47.9%
- 45-60: 29.3%
- 30-44: 18.7%
- Retired: 38.4%
- Small Business: 16.7%
- Professional: 15.7%
Do you support the Meech Lake Accord in its present form? NO: 99% / YES: 1%
Scrap the Accord entirely even if it results in Quebec's separating from Canada? YES: 93.6%
Is Canada giving enough attention to environment concerns? NO: 76% / YES: 24%
Is Canada giving enough attention to conservation of natural resources? NO: 76.2% / YES: 23.8%
Five most important issues for members:
1) Excessive government spending
2) The proposed GST
3) The Meech Lake Accord
4) Revising official languages policy
5) Senate Reform
Do you favour:
A total ban on abortions? 13.7%
Abortion on demand? 22.3%
Abortion under restrictive conditions? 64.0%
A campaign button from John Diefenbaker's successful 1956 leadership campaign, on file at the Library of Parliament in Ottawa.by Andrew Thomson on Oct 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Supporters of John Diefenbaker sing their way to victory. Courtesy of the Library of Parliament.by Andrew Thomson on Oct 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Read more on the 1956 Progressive Conservative convention
Here's how the floor of the 1956 convention looked at the Ottawa Coliseum:Courtesy City of Ottawa Archivesby Andrew Thomson on Oct 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM
The convention moved from the Telus Convention Centre to the BMO Centre at Stampede Park after major flooding in June.
Here's CPAC web update from June 26:
Last week's massive flooding in Calgary has forced the Conservative Party of Canada to put off a policy convention planned for this weekend.“After being in discussions with various authorities regarding the situation, it became clear that holding the national convention at this time would not be in the best interests of thepeople of Calgary,” party president John Walsh said in a Saturday statement.
“At this time the focus needs to be on the safety of Calgarians, and a convention our size with the security it entails could mean taking first responders away from the work they are doing."As well, the focus will soon shift to the rebuilding that needs to follow and with Stampede starting soon, a major economic driver for the region, we do not want our convention to interfere in the work that needs to be done to ensure that important event happens.”
Conservative delegates were scheduled to arrive at downtown's Telus Convention Centre on Thursday for opening ceremonies.The building was closed when the City of Calgary declared a state of emergency. There were electrical issues but no water damage.
The party's national council has yet to announce a new convention date.
The logo from the 1967 Progressive Conservative leadership convention at Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens, won by Nova Scotia Premier Robert Stanfield. Library of Parliamentby Andrew Thomson on Oct 25, 2013 at 4:45 PM